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Fantasy. Fiction. Literature. HTML:One of the most beloved and bestselling novels of spiritual adventure ever published, Ishmael has earned a passionate following. This special twenty-fifth anniversary edition features a new foreword and afterword by the author. �??A thoughtful, fearlessly low-key novel about the role of our species on the planet . . . laid out for us with an originality and a clarity that few would deny.�?��??The New York Times Book Review Teacher Seeks Pupil. Must have an earnest desire to save the world. Apply in person. It was just a three-line ad in the personals section, but it launched the adventure of a lifetime. So begins an utterly unique and captivating novel. It is the story of a man who embarks on a highly provocative intellectual adventure with a gorilla�??a journey of the mind and spirit that changes forever the way he sees the world and humankind�??s place in it. In Ishmael, which received the Turner Tomorrow Fellowship for the best work of fiction offering positive solutions to global problems, Daniel Quinn parses humanity�??s origins and its relationship with nature, in search of an answer to this challenging question: How can we save the world from ourselves? Explore Daniel Quinn�??s spiritual Ishmael trilogy: ISHMAEL �?� MY ISHMAEL �?� THE STORY OF B Praise for Ishmael �??As suspenseful, inventive, and socially urgent as any fiction or nonfiction you are likely to read this or any other year.�?��??The Austin Chronicle �??Before we�??re halfway through this slim book . . . we�??re in [Daniel Quinn�??s] grip, we want Ishmael to teach us how to save the planet from ourselves. We want to change our lives.�?��??The Washington Post �??Arthur Koestler, in an essay in which he wondered whether mankind would go the way of the dinosaur, formulated what he called the Dinosaur�??s Prayer: �??Lord, a little more time!�?? Ishmael does its bit to answer that prayer and may just possibly have bough… (more)
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Then, you should watch Donnie Darko (which will become your favorite movie), and you can talk about how movies make you think, too. Soon, you'll be readin' and thinkin' and talkin' up a storm. It's just like a dog who eats grass so he can understand horses.
A telepathic gorilla develops something like consciousness,
And something that seems to be missing from every review of this book I’ve read thus far -- the story’s narrator is barely unnerved by a telepathic gorilla. I can’t speak for anybody but myself, but if I ever tell you that my dog is talking to me, please contact the authorities. I’m sure I’ll thank you for it later. I mean, David Berkowitz does it, and he’s a serial killer; this guy does it, and he wants to roll back civilization to the hunter-gatherer stage. I’m down with Mother Earth and all that jazz, but psychopathology is psychopathology.
What makes Man different from other animals? How do we perceive the world, the galaxy, and the universe? How will man’s thirst for dominance, belief in their own mythology, and disregard for the laws of nature lead to their inevitable downfall? Ishmael teaches the narrator the subtleties of human culture, which, when looked upon, are realized to be outrageously common and all-encompassing. This novel takes the reader through a philosophical journey, at the end of which, it is almost impossible to think the same way about the world again.
Ishmael explains man’s own quest for a Utopia, which will be brought about by the destruction of all competition, and the total dominance over the entire Earth, leaving man in his rightful place, as rulers of the world. He explains that without man, the world would be a Utopia in its own respect. Everything would live according to the laws of nature, with no war, poverty, or crime. Ishmael explains that mankind sees nature as a chaotic structure void of order or reason. In reality however, nature is very organized and lawful. The reason mankind lives differently than animals in nature is because man believes himself to be above the petty laws of natural existence.
This book was incredible in the way that Ishmael was delivering his lesson to the narrator; it makes the reader feel as though they are sitting right next to the narrator figuring everything out right along with him. I highly recommend it to anyone who like philosophy, or who wants to learn about human nature. What it says on the front of the book is absolutely true. After reading this book, you look at the world and everything in it from an entirely different and enlightening perspective.
But what is the civilization that Quinn looks at? Instead of muttering about monumental building and written language, Quinn treats civilization in a method that is becoming increasingly popular: as the result of a critical mass of humanity that makes possible rapid advances in knowledge and science. For this to be possible, intensive agriculture must be used to raise the population density to such a point that civilization occurs.
So Quinn uses a gorilla as an outsider looking in and perceiving the reality of civilization - of cultures using intensive agriculture to dominate the world. His conclusions are for the most part negative: he concludes that civilization is not sustainable in the long term (that is, over millions of years).
The observations used to come to this conclusion are relatively well-known; that civilization is the greatest disaster to befall earth in the past 65 million years. In terms of pollution, deforestation, extinction, and overall negative impact to the web of life itself, humanity is supreme among all the species. What Quinn does not share with the others who know these facts is a belief that civilization will overcome any difficulties it encounters. Civilization, to Quinn, is the problem, not the solution.
"Ishmael" is the presentation of these ideas in a Socratic method from a gorilla to a man "with an earnest desire to save the world." There isn't really any plot to this book, nor does Quinn intend there to be. The disappearance of Ishmael at the end of book is the only story-like element in "Ishmael", and it is really an attempt by Quinn to set the reader free - to encourage him/her to think about civilization for himself rather than be told about it by a telepathic gorilla. I've always had the feeling that this should be considered nonfiction, rather than a story.
The problem presented by "Ishmael" is simple: civilization is the problem. The solution is both simple and complex: in order to preserve a human niche in the ecosystem, we must go beyond civilization. Working to figure out just what this means is one of the great joys of reading "Ishmael," whether or not you agree with Quinn's assessment of the situation. "Ishmael" is a book that will make you look around and think, and perhaps reach some conclusions that you may find surprising. Highly recommended.
The book can be summarized (poorly at best) in the following manner: A man is forced to evaluate the emergence of civilization via the Socratic Teaching Method. The book then consists mostly of a transcibed conversation between the protagonist and his teacher, a gorilla named Ishmael. Through the conversation, the man, and simultaneously the reader, reveal the true driving force behind the society in which we all live. The realization of the toxicity of this culture is vivid, and thoroughly explained in the text.
I reccomend this book to even those who disagree with these claims, and therefore embrace our culture, because the book will still inform and educate.
The themes of the novel can becom the foundations radical new beliefs for many people or it may just be the confirmation for the need of change in our current society's way. In any case Ishmael is a must read for all people.
Well, the counter-argument: Ishmael does not highlight this mind-blowing never-been-thought-or-mentioned-before point of being, but it does pull together strands of what critical minds already have heard and thought, add an interesting point of view, and weave it together in a way that I hadn't experienced before. It will mean different things to different age groups, depending on where the reader is in their world view and thought process - but really, I think it can be valuable at any stage. And although the plot was minimal (it really is a gigantic conversation in the form of a novel, in socratic questioning format), I was still engaged with how it developed. I cared about Ishmael and what happened to him.
In short, I love the way Ishmael makes you pull together various thoughts about civilization and think about it all in context. I much preferred The Story of B. because of the deepening of the philosophy and the greater storyline, but Ishmael is essential to beginning the journey with David Quinn, and if you realize that it will be more of a conversation than an exciting novel with massive plot-twists and respect it for what it is, you will enjoy it as much as I did.
TEACHER SEEKS PUPIL
Must have an earnest desire to
save the world. Apply in person.
Who (or what) he finds there and the conversation they have about how to save the world follows. This book is written in a conversational style that reminded me of The
When you begin Ishmael it will not be what you expect. The story opens with a strange ad: "Teacher seeks pupil, must have an earnest desire to save the world". This intrigues the reader and brings you into the book. The teacher who is seeking this
Ishmael and Alan discuss issues of society and the world. They talk through many stages of the world, both governments and people that have worked and those that have not worked. Ishmael tries to show the world to Alan through the eyes of an animal he address that fact that keeping animals in cages and feeling superior to them is similar Nazi Germany, and the German’s feeling superior to the Jews and other minorities. Ishmael and Alan discuss that human nature is try and create a utopia. However, he also states that this is impossible because there is no right way to live and therefore you can’t achieve that perfect world.
This book opens your mind and gives you new ideas! At first it was a little hard to get into because I felt the premise was strange and that made it hard to commit to the book. However, once you do it really shows you how animals must feel when you overpower them and it shows how another being in the world like animals view humans. I would recommend this book to anyone age 15 and up sometimes it is hard to understand so kids a lot younger then that might have trouble. I think that there is something to be gained from this book no matter what your age is.
Because the unnamed character is digesting new material about his culture, it is forcing him to rethink the way he lived his life, which enacts his search for self. In his search, the unnamed character battles tradition with fact, but which will overcome?
I enjoyed reading this book because Ishmael takes historical stories, and puts a twist on them, making the reader rethink the story in a way never seen before. However, there is minimal plot in this book, seeing is that it is mostly two creatures sitting in a room discussing life. Because of this, the ending is predictable, leaving the reader a bit disappointed. However, the reader will walk away with a new sense of how their culture enacts their story, possibly troubling them. The question is: Is this a good thing?
Ishmael talking to the human (who was never named nor gendered) was like in real life. The author tried to put a human touch on the book in that the human asked many questions and Ishmael changed locations due to his owners. The human had the regular responses to some things Ishmael said, for Ishmael was a very intelligent ape. He taught me about the environment and the history of man. He also teaches me what he believes is the reason for many questions humans have and wonder about, and at the same time don’t wonder about. For instance how did man become man? Ishmael spoke with no one religion; he just spoke of the “gods.” Christians speak in the sense that God made man but that is not what Ishmael meant, he meant how we became in power over all and a deeper meaning. Everything Ishmael said had a deeper meaning and it blew my mind.
Ishmael teaches the human about why the earth is not a utopia. The Takers utopia is a world they control. However we control the world now and it is not happy. While the Leavers lived in happiness and the world worked for them but their utopia was lost when the Takers took control. Through speaking about the environment Ishmael tells us how the author pictures his utopia in that we are all equal including among creatures. Humans are only making the path on how to live and we should help creatures and others along the way.
I thought this novel was very good. Although it was confusing and boring at times within the next chapters I began to understand what Ishmael was saying. To get the point across Ishmael would talk for pages when I could have understood it the first page. It just gave extra thought. Plus there was no mystery or action in it which are my favorite kinds of books but educationally it was awesome. However I cannot stress how differently it changed my thoughts and made me realize how all us humans do think the same in some sense. It opened my eyes in how much destruction humans cause and how change is needed.
“Teacher seeks pupil
. Must have an earnest desire to save the world.
Apply in person.”
Ishmael does more than point out the obvious, in fact he does just the opposite once his ad is answered. He and his pupil, the 5th of four failures, take a journey together as they examine the past, present and future. Ishmael uses his knowledge of ancient maps and text, including the globally interpreted Bible, to support his conclusions. However, he doesn’t allow his knowledge to boil over, spilling over onto his overwhelmed student; he and his student have deep conversations while Ishmael skillfully leads him to the truth. That’s not to say that the pupil automatically knows every answer to Ishmael’s well thought out inquiries, its actually quite the contrary. That’s what makes this novel so effective- the way that it’s written. Once you get to the end, it seems so clear, so blatantly obvious what people need to do in order to fix the world, but it truly takes the 263 pages to get there. Quinn slowly but surely allows you to develop your thoughts alongside Ishmael’s pupil. Quinn allows him to ask the questions that you yourself would surely ask, as if you were there with him. By the end you are invigorated with truth, and with an earnest desire to save the world.
I 100% percent recommend that everyone reads this book. Ishmael (it’s much more fun to give props to a gorilla than a man named Quinn) doesn’t present you with any sort of new knowledge, it’s all stuff we’ve seen or heard before. He just shows us us, but from a different perspective, and that’s pretty awesome. By the end you are invigorated with truth, and with an earnest desire to save the world. The only reason I hesitated to give this book 5 stars is because it got a little too heavy for me at times. There are so many gargantuan things to note at once that sometimes it gets a little overwhelming, but there are some breaks from learning peppered in the beginning and end of the book as we learn more about Ishmael.