Sandworms of Dune

by Brian Herbert

2008

Status

Available

Publication

Tor Science Fiction (2008), Edition: First, 560 pages

Description

Fiction. Science Fiction. HTML: Book Two in the stunning conclusion to Frank Herbert's worldwide bestselling Dune Chronicles At the end of Frank Herbert's final novel, Chapterhouse: Dune, a ship carrying a crew of refugees escapes into the uncharted galaxy, fleeing from a terrifying, mysterious Enemy. The fugitives used genetic technology to revive key figures from Dune's pastā??including Paul Muad'Dib and Lady Jessicaā??to use their special talents to meet the challenges thrown at them. Based directly on Frank Herbert's final outline, which lay hidden in two safe-deposit boxes for a decade, Sandworms of Dune will answer the urgent questions Dune fans have been debating for two decades: the origin of the Honored Matres, the tantalizing future of the planet Arrakis, the final revelation of the Kwisatz Haderach, and the resolution to the war between Man and Machine. This breathtaking new novel in Frank Herbert's Dune series has enough surprises and plot twists to please even the most demanding reader… (more)

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LibraryThing member Neil_Luvs_Books
After reading Sandworms of Dune, I can finally set down the entire Dune Chronicles. I read The Legends of Dune trilogy, The Houses of Dune trilogy, Frank Herbertā€™s original 6 volumes in the Dune Chronicles and the concluding two volumes by his son and Kevin Anderson. This was a reading project
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that took me a couple of years to complete. I was unimpressed by Legends, found Houses to be entertaining, the original Dune is still a classic and the next four to be worth reading. FHā€™s last volume, Chapterhouse Dune was not as good though it ended on a very interesting note that I wish (as many others do) that he had been able to follow up on it. The last two volumes, Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune by BH and KJA were a slog to read - I found them frustrating.

So what annoyed me in Sandworms? The colonial attitude that the universe is for humans to do with as they wish without thought of other lifeforms. Resources are there to be used by humanity. I also found this attitude to be extended to women which was odd as women think of each other as resources to use both in breeding programs and as axlotl tanks.

Axlotl tanks! What an abhorrent idea. In the Houses trilogy and in the first couple of volumes of Frankā€™s original Dune books, the idea of using women simply as incubators was treated as something awful. By Sandworms, it had become normalized and offered sort of like a career choice to women. What a sad thing to suggest and it made no sense to continue with the technique. Using the axlotl tanks to resurrect characters long dead because they had special properties that might help humanity defeat the thinking machines sort of made sense when the thinking machines were a threat. But at the end of Sandworms, there has been a reconciliation between human and machine. What is the point if dehumanizing women to simply be incubators. Once the threat was removed this abhorrent technology should have been completed dismantled. It made no sense to me that it should continue.

And at the end of Sandworms the Bene Gesserit breeding program is apparently going to continue? Why? That also makes no sense! The BG breeding program had as its goal to produce the Kwisatz Haderach but by the end of Sandworms, the BG have committed to not producing another KH. So what is the point of continuing the breeding program? Why is it assumed in the book that this sort of positive eugenics is a good thing? Something that kept coming up in the books is how prescience and controlling the future becomes boring and static and that what makes life worth living is being surprised. A breeding program tries to avoid surprises - the point is to control what offspring are produced. This did not make sense to me that it should continue.

I did not like the appearance of an ultimate Kwisatz Haderach. What made the idea of a KH interesting was that the individual would be uniquely gifted and that they were the result of careful breeding. But now it seems in Sandworms that KHs are all over the place and can be engineered by ghola engineering. The KH is no longer unique and became, for me, a boring concept even though at the end of Heretics of Dune, Frank Herbert did something really interesting with Miles Teg. But the character - the idea - didnā€™t develop well for me in subsequent novels.

I also did not appreciate how the Dune Chronicles ends with the other memory of the BG referred to as racial memory. I thought other memory was supposed to be something developed in humanity and not localized to a particular race.

Finally, at the end of Sandworms, there is supposed to be a great rapprochement between thinking machines and humans. But the ultimate KH gives the homeworld of the thinking machines to humans to do with as they see fit. Humans yet again get to colonize a world that was not theirs to begin with. And then, ā€œthinking machinesā€ are simply used by humans as workers to rehabilitate/terraform/rehabilitate worlds inhabited by humans. But there is no sense that these machine ā€œpartnersā€ with humanity are given any agency. If they are thinking machines donā€™t they have their own goals/dreams/aspirations?

Very disappointing end to something that had such auspicious beginnings in the original Dune.
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LibraryThing member Eruntane
I was highly gratified to be upheld in my opinion that Duncan Idaho is actually the most important character of the whole Dune saga. I couldn't help but feel, though, that this was a weak ending to such a behemoth of a series. It was too neat, and too saccharine. Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson
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didn't maintain the very cold atmosphere of the original books - part of their brilliance was the constant tension between the characters' desires and duties. Now we are left with no conflict at all, and since a good story relies on conflict, the whole thing fizzles out like a shrivelled balloon. I'm very happy for the characters in their final situations, and I'm very happy for myself that I don't have to read about them there.
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LibraryThing member wissamktb
Laughable. All the clones that popped up almost made this book feel like a parody of the original series.
LibraryThing member FicusFan
This is the second 'final book' (# 7B) in the original Dune series.

I would probably not have picked it up, but my RL book group picked the first 'final book' (#7A) Hunters of Dune . I am a completist and I just couldn't read only half the ending. I was also surprised that I didn't hate book 1,
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and that their writing had improved. Still not in Frank's league, but better.

Supposedly Frank left the outline and these jokers 'filled it in'.

This book still has the No-Ship and its inhabitants fleeing from the invisible great Enemy that the Honored Matres lead back to the old empire when they came running back from the scattering.

On the ship are Duncan Idaho and the last group of conservative Bene Gesserits, a group of Jews (?) and the last Tleilaxu master, Scytale. He has a capsule of cells and from them they make Gholas. They start resurrecting many of the old characters from 1000s of years ago (first books). That intrigued me, because I am a sucker for the original characters.

Unfortunately, they do nothing with the characters for hundreds of pages. They pop in an out of different places and planets, having adventures, but nothing to advance the story. Most of the book was a slog (another 500+ pager) and it took me 12 days to read it. I just couldn't pick it up a lot of the time.

The book did pick up starting around page 300. They started to deal with the battle at the end of time with the Enemy.

I liked how they wrapped it up. I was happy for the good things that happened to the characters, and sad for the bad things.
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LibraryThing member jamestomasino
This is a terrible ending to the epic. The pacing is terribly drawn out. The plot twists are obvious. The brilliant characters are suddenly idiots who don't have backup plans. The resolution between the enemies is utter nonsense.

I know they claim this is based upon Frank Herbert's notes for the
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series but the heavy leaning on the butlarian jihad reads like Brian and Kevin trying to make their prequels meaningful. If that was really the direction being planned Frank would have had some sign in an earlier story.

The Ghola plots we're a cheap way to get readers in with familiar characters despite having no real purpose. In the end, the action of the main characters was irrelevant. The plans and plotting had no bearing on the outcome at any level. The extended Hollywood ending was trite as well.

If you, like me, loved the Dune books so much that the cliffhanger after book 6 made you want to read these last two to wrap things up... don't. Just don't. Your musings and daydreams are better.
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LibraryThing member irckigalirw
The magnificent climax of the Dune cycle is somewhat the miraculous knot solver this twisted story desperately needed. In the previous novel ā€˜The Hunters of Duneā€™, Sheena and her band of rebellious Bene Gesserits and the refugee Jews stole a no-ship and run from Chapterhouse in order to escape
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the merging of the Bene Gesserit and the hated Honored Madres. For almost a quarter of a century on the run, the no-ship and its mixed crew encountered several obstacles, like the anonymous enemy for whom apparently the new and almost undetectable Face Dancers were working. With the crew is one of the maybe last Tleilaxu masters, Scytale, who is forced to present his only bargain chip in this game: a nullentropy capsule which contains genetic material of all the great figures of history, which are subsequently resurrected one after another. Sheena hopes that they might bring about the turn in this battle, no one relly understands.
Knot solver may be a little overstated, since a few plot twists are not solved so obvious. Only now, when I thought about what to write in this review I stumbled across on thing I did not get throughout the entire book, why, on earth, were two particular ghola babies killed? The no-ship had an saboteur on board, who for no apparent reason killed of two unborn ghola babies including the axlotl tanks that were carrying them. Now, to give some hints: what do they have in common? What makes them different from the other gholas? And what is their relation with the enemy?
This dilemma may indicate the special appeal of this particular novel: the reader has to think for him- or herself. Not everything is as it may seem. Only the unknown incarnation of the great Duncan Idaho gets a little annoying after a while. Close to the end, it seems like his entire personality is changing in an instant, as is Erasmusā€™.
The novel as such is a neat performance and though it requires the reader to use his or her head for more than just store the just read information but also to rearrange it in such a manner that is makes sense, it is still entertaining enough and not only ā€˜workā€™. (
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LibraryThing member MSWallack
I was actually very worried -- even hesitant -- before reading Sandworms of Dune. Ever since reading it for the first time in the late 70s, Dune has been my favorite book. I've read it at least 10 times. I've also read all of the rest of Frank Herbert's Dune books and all of Brian Herbert and Kevin
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J. Anderson's Dune prequels. Some of the books I've enjoyed; others have been almost painful. I didn't like Chapterhouse: Dune, Herbert's last Dune novel before his death. Yet the virtual cliffhanger ending left me wanting more anyway. The first of the "final" sequels, Hunters of Dune suffered from many of the same problems as Chapterhouse: Dune, not the least of which being that it was far to "talky" without enough action. Thankfully -- and finally -- Sandworms of Dune finally reached a better balance. I was also concerned that the direction of the plot device begun in Hunters of Dune -- namely, the introduction of old, familiar characters, as gholas, was a cheap, sentimental plot device. Thankfully, the authors did not descend into self-parody or pastiche and remained true to the Dune universe. In the end, Sandworms of Dune was certainly not a perfect book, but it was much, much better than I'd expected which, given my trepidation, left me feeling very pleased. Supposedly, the story is based on notes left by Frank Herbert; perhaps it was and perhaps not (as many have suggested due to the way in which plot elements coincide with plot elements from the various prequels about the Butlerian Jihad). In any event, for the most part, the plot worked. And, as reluctant as I always am to provide any spoilers, allow me to say that the last chapter (an epilogue much like the epilogue at the end of the final Harry Potter book) provided a moment that almost every fan of Dune has longed for, probably from the moment that they put down Dune Messiah. I know that when I finally put down Sandworms of Dune, I did so with a smile on my face.
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LibraryThing member Ed_Gosney
Though many people seem to slam the Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson Dune books, I know that I'm always in for some good adventure and familiar territory when I pick up one to read. Now that I'm through with everything they've written on Dune, I look forward to more Dune adventures.
LibraryThing member markg80
It does a good job a tying the storylines together. The book starts a bit bland and predicatable, but it gets better later on. So read it if you read the previous books of the Dune universe. Don't read it if you didn't, you wouldn't understand the storylines anyway.
LibraryThing member mi-chan
The magnificent climax of the Dune cycle is somewhat the miraculous knot solver this twisted story desperately needed. In the previous novel ā€˜The Hunters of Duneā€™, Sheena and her band of rebellious Bene Gesserits and the refugee Jews stole a no-ship and run from Chapterhouse in order to escape
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the merging of the Bene Gesserit and the hated Honored Madres. For almost a quarter of a century on the run, the no-ship and its mixed crew encountered several obstacles, like the anonymous enemy for whom apparently the new and almost undetectable Face Dancers were working. With the crew is one of the maybe last Tleilaxu masters, Scytale, who is forced to present his only bargain chip in this game: a nullentropy capsule which contains genetic material of all the great figures of history, which are subsequently resurrected one after another. Sheena hopes that they might bring about the turn in this battle, no one relly understands.
Knot solver may be a little overstated, since a few plot twists are not solved so obvious. Only now, when I thought about what to write in this review I stumbled across on thing I did not get throughout the entire book, why, on earth, were two particular ghola babies killed? The no-ship had an saboteur on board, who for no apparent reason killed of two unborn ghola babies including the axlotl tanks that were carrying them. Now, to give some hints: what do they have in common? What makes them different from the other gholas? And what is their relation with the enemy?
This dilemma may indicate the special appeal of this particular novel: the reader has to think for him- or herself. Not everything is as it may seem. Only the unknown incarnation of the great Duncan Idaho gets a little annoying after a while. Close to the end, it seems like his entire personality is changing in an instant, as is Erasmusā€™.
The novel as such is a neat performance and though it requires the reader to use his or her head for more than just store the just read information but also to rearrange it in such a manner that is makes sense, it is still entertaining enough and not only ā€˜workā€™.
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LibraryThing member Cecrow
I'm allowing this four stars for consistency, since as a novel it's no worse than "Hunters", but as the conclusion to the Dune series it was disappointing. I fully anticipated the culmination of Leto II's Golden Path, completing an arc that would have begun with the first three books leading up to
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his becoming God Emperor, and then three more (Hunters & Sandworms were intended to be one) revealing how the plan he sets in motion pans out, Volume Four ("God Emperor") placed as the keystone. Instead Leto II has no significant role, and the Golden Path gets belittled. The ending as written is okay, but it doesn't unify the whole; it serves, but there's no aftertaste. Ultimately it's no more satisfying a conclusion than the Chapterhouse cliffhanger we were previously left with. I can't help wondering if Brian and Kevin missed a crucial line or two somewhere in Frank Herbert's outline.
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LibraryThing member mountaincat
The entire series, beginning with Dune, going through the prequels and finally ending with this book, are excellent. One truly needs to read the entire series to comprehend the magnitude of the Dune universe and it's amazing story. The concluding novel, Sandworms of Dune is excellent.
LibraryThing member koalamom
I liked it better than I thought but am glad the series is over. It does bring a lot of threads to their end and it gives a sense of finality. If you like the Dune series this is a good one to read.
LibraryThing member derek.collins
As a finale of the the Dune series this is a great book. But, as I read it, I couldn't help but wonder how the material, the plot, and the characters would have been under the expert hand of Frank Herbert instead of Brian and Kevin. There are several places where plots and counterplots were simply
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explained for the reader. What made Frank's Dune so strong was that the intrigue was weaved together and slowly revealed. I suppose it is a difference of styles and "understanding" of the material.
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LibraryThing member jcopenha
A conclusion to a wonderful saga. However this book suffers from the same writing as the last one. It's no surprise really, Brian and Kevin have a very different style than Frank did. I enjoyed it for the most part. It's good to be closed but don't read it expecting a great Dune novel.
LibraryThing member drewfull
If you're a huge Dune fan it's worth reading for the four-five plot points that clearly came from Frank Herbert's notes. Otherwise, Brian unfortunately doesn't add much aside from the "look i've brought all the characters back around" nostalgia.If this is your introduction to the this series, go
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read Dune 1 instead.
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LibraryThing member Cataloger623
Don't buy get from the library. I got feeling that writers got bored writing this thing. I read it because I thought it was the last of the Dune series. 16 volumes so far. I started in 1969. I've read 10. I was mistaken, there's another one coming!

The 1st 3 written by Frank Herbert are great to
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good.

The ones written by his son Brian and friend Kevin Anderson are only

fair some border on boring.
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LibraryThing member VincentDarlage
Enjoyable book. Not sure I buy into the fact that the weird guys at the end of Chapterhouse: Dune are actually Omnius and Erasmus, but if that is accepted, then this book is pretty darn good. Interesting conclusion.
LibraryThing member ragwaine
So this is it. The FINAL book in the original Dune series. I guess it would be more of a big deal if it was the last Dune book I'll ever read, but I've got at least 3 more that I know of. It IS kind of a big deal though, considering that I read the first Dune book probably sometime around 1982.
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That means I've been reading this series for about 36 years. :) So it was cool to "put a cap" on the original series and I'm glad that I really enjoyed it.

At first I felt a little like bringing the old characters back was a trick to sell more books, to make readers get nostalgic, but really Frank Herbert laid out the original ground work with Duncan Idaho so it worked for me. It was great to learn the history of the Honored Matres and also cool that they added ideas and characters from the prequels into it.

So basically what I'm saying is that I think I'll be okay reading Dune books until I'm dead.
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LibraryThing member amuskopf
The golden pillar the original Dune books sit on is so high birds can crash into it. That's fine, they are great books (though Dune is the only one I really loved) but with this one, I think there is something to knowing how it all goes down. I don't think the themes and events in the book are too
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far off, and I am satisfied and glad I was able to finish reading the Dune saga.
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LibraryThing member Andorion
Once again if it was possible to rate books in the negative I would do so.

This...atrocity gives new meaning to phrases like "Nuke it from orbit" or "Kill it with fire". I would recommend nuking it from orbit while killing it with dragonfire and then shooting the remnant ashes into the Sun.

What can
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I say? After a long, boring narrative comprising of characters being stupid and talking in stilted dialogue the book climaxes in a deus ex machina to end all deus ex machinas. Or rather a cluster of deus ex machinas. The ending is possibly the worst this series could have.

Avoid this and all other works by these two people like hell. I certainly will.
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LibraryThing member Kurt.Rocourt
"You stupid sons of bitches". That was my reaction to finishing this book. I don't know where to start with what is wrong with this book. Wait, I know, how about every single thing in this book. No, wait there is one good thing in this book but mentioning that might make someone want to read this
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thing. Don't do that. This book will hurt your mind. If you loved the original Frank Herbert books than stay away from this book. The book before is not horrible but its not good either. But this, is trash. How do you not realize that the one human person in this whole series is meant to stay human. You stupid sons of bitches. If not for Frank Herbert inspiring this I would give it one star. Preferably I would give a negative one star.
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LibraryThing member TheCrow2
The Kralizec is here.... In the epic conclusion of the Dune saga near all the classic characters of the saga gathering again (ghola technology rules?) to be the witness of the rising of the final and ultimate Kwisatz Haderach and the fate of the galaxy. A little bit too much sentimentalism and
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happy ending at the final pages if you ask me, but for Dune fans it's a must.
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LibraryThing member DrShitan
Not as bad as I tought it was gonna be, but not nearly as good and well written as Frank Herbert's novels.

The plot seems a bit exagerated. In various moments it feels like they're trying to reach the same level of depth and complexity than the original novels, but overall it's not well balanced.

But
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in the end, i think that the story flows quite well and it did kept me wanting to know what was gonna happen next. It's also good to revisit this universe and it's charachters,...more Not as bad as I tought it was gonna be, but not nearly as good and well written as Frank Herbert's novels.

The plot seems a bit exagerated. In various moments it feels like they're trying to reach the same level of depth and complexity than the original novels, but overall it's not well balanced.

But in the end, i think that the story flows quite well and it did kept me wanting to know what was gonna happen next. It's also good to revisit this universe and it's charachters, altough not in their best form.
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Language

Original language

English

Original publication date

2007

Physical description

560 p.; 4.21 inches

ISBN

0765351498 / 9780765351494

Barcode

1602433
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