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W W Norton (1985), Mass Market Paperback, 221 pages
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"Five hundred years before Christ in a little town on the far western border of the settled and civilizaed world, a strange new power was at work. . . . Athens had entered upon her brief and magnificent flowering of genius which so molded the world of mind and of spirit that our mind and spirit today are different. . . . What was then produced of art and of thought has never been surpasses and very rarely equalled, and the stamp of it is upon all the art and all the thought of the Western world."A perennial favorite in many different editions, Edith Hamilton's best-selling The Greek Way captures the spirit and achievements of Greece in the fifth century B.C. A retired headmistress when she began her writing career in the 1930s, Hamilton immediately demonstrated a remarkable ability to bring the world of ancient Greece to life, introducing that world to the twentieth century. The New York Times called The Greek Way a "book of both cultural and critical importance."… (more)
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221 p.; 5.51 inches
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LibraryThing member DirtPriest
Boy is it nice to read an older book. It really highlights how simplified, almost dumbed down, the English language has become. Miss Hamilton explains her theory about what made the Greeks so great, basically that they found a balance between the seen and unseen, reality and spirit, the individual
The author uses parallel examples to highlight similarities between the above writers. I find Euripides to be exceptionally emotional. His play 'The Trojan Women' takes the heroism of Homer's Iliad and turns it completely around to show the anguish of the wives of defeated Troy as they lament their losses of family and home while awaiting the princes of Greece to draw lots for them. I don't think I could read the whole thing, it being just too sad.
The highlight is Chapter 7 (VII to be specific) where the author explains what exactly makes tragedy so difficult, rare and powerful. 'Why is the death of an ordinary man a wretched, chilling thing which we turn from, while the death of a hero, always tragic, warms us with a sense of quickened life? Answer this question and the enigma of tragic pleasure is solved.' An excellent primer for beginning an exploration of a great age in history as well as an exercise in reading good English, a rarity in these days when some guy can publish an entire novel in text message abbreviation.
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and the community, the likes of which has never been equalled. In so doing she discusses the surviving literature of the Athenian age, comparing Aristophanes and his satirical comedies to the plays of Gilbert and Sullivan. (Gilbert was the musician and Sullivan wrote the libretti? Very far from my area of expertise in music lore.) She goes on to compare the tragedies of Aeschylus to Shakespeare, Sophocles to Milton and Euripedes to Isaiah. As an aside, Isaiah is the highlight of the Bible as far as this ornery old pagan is concerned and is another of the required reading that I would mandate if I were the Thain of the Land.The author uses parallel examples to highlight similarities between the above writers. I find Euripides to be exceptionally emotional. His play 'The Trojan Women' takes the heroism of Homer's Iliad and turns it completely around to show the anguish of the wives of defeated Troy as they lament their losses of family and home while awaiting the princes of Greece to draw lots for them. I don't think I could read the whole thing, it being just too sad.
The highlight is Chapter 7 (VII to be specific) where the author explains what exactly makes tragedy so difficult, rare and powerful. 'Why is the death of an ordinary man a wretched, chilling thing which we turn from, while the death of a hero, always tragic, warms us with a sense of quickened life? Answer this question and the enigma of tragic pleasure is solved.' An excellent primer for beginning an exploration of a great age in history as well as an exercise in reading good English, a rarity in these days when some guy can publish an entire novel in text message abbreviation.
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LibraryThing member elenchus
Hamilton here collects various stand-alone essays, engaging subjects both general and particular. She is a cheerleader here, convinced herself that Greek history and culture of antiquity are one of the highest achievements of human civilization, and if not aiming to persuade the reader, certainly
A case in point is Hamilton's discussion of tragedy in general, defining it as the human capacity for suffering while yet finding in this suffering cause for exaltation. I wonder if the root of tragedy really lies in this capacity for suffering and awe, but I had not wondered very specifically until reading her essay. Hamilton does a bit better in reviewing the separate tragic contributions of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripedes: apart from overusing superlatives like "no other poet ever touched upon suffering as did Euripedes", her essay uses specific examples from their writings and biography, and are the better for it.
Another example: condemning magic as mere fear and ignorance, or Egyptian civilization as cruel, aristocratic, and unreasonably focused upon the dead rather than the living. It's not so much that these points are without merit, as that they are grossly oversimplified in a way she carefully avoids when reviewing Greek civilization ... unless to heap praise upon it.
Once her perspective is seen for what it is, however: unabashed apologist, Hamilton provides as fine a survey of Greek letters and history as I could wish. It remains only for me correct her on various points by reading further and deeper in those areas she glances over.
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does not approach her subject with anything like skepticism. Interestingly, the general essays on Greek (Western) thought contrasted broadly with Chinese or Indian (Eastern) thought, or the role of mind versus spirit in Attic Greece fare worse than those dealing particularly with one or another Greek thinker. However, even when unpersuasive, Hamilton raises provocative questions and themes, and for that reason these essays are worth revisiting.A case in point is Hamilton's discussion of tragedy in general, defining it as the human capacity for suffering while yet finding in this suffering cause for exaltation. I wonder if the root of tragedy really lies in this capacity for suffering and awe, but I had not wondered very specifically until reading her essay. Hamilton does a bit better in reviewing the separate tragic contributions of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripedes: apart from overusing superlatives like "no other poet ever touched upon suffering as did Euripedes", her essay uses specific examples from their writings and biography, and are the better for it.
Another example: condemning magic as mere fear and ignorance, or Egyptian civilization as cruel, aristocratic, and unreasonably focused upon the dead rather than the living. It's not so much that these points are without merit, as that they are grossly oversimplified in a way she carefully avoids when reviewing Greek civilization ... unless to heap praise upon it.
Once her perspective is seen for what it is, however: unabashed apologist, Hamilton provides as fine a survey of Greek letters and history as I could wish. It remains only for me correct her on various points by reading further and deeper in those areas she glances over.
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LibraryThing member wildbill
I have always been fascinated by the beginning of Western Culture in the flowering of Athens. Somehow over the space of roughly a century or two there occurred a magnificent growth of culture and ideas in that city that has made the mind and spirit of the world today forever changed. This book is a
Edith Hamilton was sixty-three when she wrote this book and she synthesized a lifetime of knowledge to bring to the reader the world of Athens during this time. Her chapter on Socrates and the growth of philosophy is a delight. Casual conversations become discussions on the nature of virtue. Socrates always asking questions, seeking after truth.
Her comparisons of Herodotus and Thucydides illustrate the different approaches that gave rise to Western history. Herodotus wrote down everything that came his way while Thucydides sought to provide a guide to the future through the story of the past.
The comedy of Aristophanes described by the author as the speaking picture of the follies and foibles of his day illustrates the impulse to make fun of all aspects of life. The concept of tragedy grew out of the ability to look calmly at the pain in life without fear. This grew through the plays of Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides developing ideas I cannot say I truly understand. She then moves forward to the works of Shakespeare to show how those beginnings grew.
Underlying this fantastic growth of ideas was the concept of freedom. The gift of the Greeks was that they felt free to think about anything that came to mind. Their thoughts were not constrained by religion or fear of the unknown. That was their great gift to Western Civilization. The ability to use their reason to think allowed them to question freely the world around them. It was their attempts to answer those questions that gave rise to the world we live in.
I feel this was a feeble attempt to bring to the reader some small glimpse of this classic book. I could read it time and again to gain a real understanding of the ideas the author has set forth. I do know that I now have a greater knowledge of who we are and the world we live in.
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description of the men and ideas that contributed to the changes that occurred and how they molded the Western Culture that grew out of that remarkable time.Edith Hamilton was sixty-three when she wrote this book and she synthesized a lifetime of knowledge to bring to the reader the world of Athens during this time. Her chapter on Socrates and the growth of philosophy is a delight. Casual conversations become discussions on the nature of virtue. Socrates always asking questions, seeking after truth.
Her comparisons of Herodotus and Thucydides illustrate the different approaches that gave rise to Western history. Herodotus wrote down everything that came his way while Thucydides sought to provide a guide to the future through the story of the past.
The comedy of Aristophanes described by the author as the speaking picture of the follies and foibles of his day illustrates the impulse to make fun of all aspects of life. The concept of tragedy grew out of the ability to look calmly at the pain in life without fear. This grew through the plays of Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides developing ideas I cannot say I truly understand. She then moves forward to the works of Shakespeare to show how those beginnings grew.
Underlying this fantastic growth of ideas was the concept of freedom. The gift of the Greeks was that they felt free to think about anything that came to mind. Their thoughts were not constrained by religion or fear of the unknown. That was their great gift to Western Civilization. The ability to use their reason to think allowed them to question freely the world around them. It was their attempts to answer those questions that gave rise to the world we live in.
I feel this was a feeble attempt to bring to the reader some small glimpse of this classic book. I could read it time and again to gain a real understanding of the ideas the author has set forth. I do know that I now have a greater knowledge of who we are and the world we live in.
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LibraryThing member jwhenderson
I first encountered the work of Edith Hamilton when I was a student of Latin in high school. She enchanted me with her love for classical Greece much as did my Latin teacher. This is a wonderful overview of the culture that influences yet today.
LibraryThing member justindtapp
This is an overview of Greek development of philosophy, the arts, and religion as well as a contrast with other cultures on earth during the classical Greek period and modern cultures. Hamilton chronicles the history of some of the major Greek philosophers and playwrights circa 5 B.C. and explains
This book is apparently a classic first written in the 1930s and assigned in many high school and college courses and has been updated and reprinted several times, my version was from 1993. I learned from looking at the negative reviews on Amazon, with plenty of high school students complaining about how "boring" the book was. I did not find it that boring, but wondered what level of expertise Hamilton has on Greek, Macedonian, ancient Chinese, and modern European and Russian cultures that she comments on so readily. As such, I took most of her comments with a grain of salt. There are lengthy excerpts of Greek works to prove her points and that became tedious but it is also classical literature that is worth being exposed to.
For comparison, I recommend Charles Freeman's Egypt, Greece, and Rome that looks at each culture separately and gives the entire historical backdrop. Hamilton chronicles how views of government and philosophy changed as a result of the Peloponnesian War but provides little context for understanding that war. Aeschylus, Herodutus, Plato, etc. and sets up a comparative with each. Aeschylus with the other dramatists; Herodutus with Thucydides and Xenophon, etc.
There are some interesting comparisons and contrasts with the Bible. Hamilton does not claim the Gospels as a work of Greek philosophy, rather she illustrates the differences between ancient Jewish, Greek, and the later Judeo-Christian cultures.
She makes some bold statements that seem...false: "Greeks were the first people in the world to play," for example.
In all, I enjoyed the Freeman-like overview of Athenian culture as a refresher. I read Xenophon and Plato in the past year and want to continue with more Plato and Aristotle this year. 3 stars out of 5.
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what their work says about Greek attitude toward reason, freedom, the individual, and society.This book is apparently a classic first written in the 1930s and assigned in many high school and college courses and has been updated and reprinted several times, my version was from 1993. I learned from looking at the negative reviews on Amazon, with plenty of high school students complaining about how "boring" the book was. I did not find it that boring, but wondered what level of expertise Hamilton has on Greek, Macedonian, ancient Chinese, and modern European and Russian cultures that she comments on so readily. As such, I took most of her comments with a grain of salt. There are lengthy excerpts of Greek works to prove her points and that became tedious but it is also classical literature that is worth being exposed to.
For comparison, I recommend Charles Freeman's Egypt, Greece, and Rome that looks at each culture separately and gives the entire historical backdrop. Hamilton chronicles how views of government and philosophy changed as a result of the Peloponnesian War but provides little context for understanding that war. Aeschylus, Herodutus, Plato, etc. and sets up a comparative with each. Aeschylus with the other dramatists; Herodutus with Thucydides and Xenophon, etc.
There are some interesting comparisons and contrasts with the Bible. Hamilton does not claim the Gospels as a work of Greek philosophy, rather she illustrates the differences between ancient Jewish, Greek, and the later Judeo-Christian cultures.
She makes some bold statements that seem...false: "Greeks were the first people in the world to play," for example.
In all, I enjoyed the Freeman-like overview of Athenian culture as a refresher. I read Xenophon and Plato in the past year and want to continue with more Plato and Aristotle this year. 3 stars out of 5.
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LibraryThing member themulhern
This is the very first book by the author of "Mythology", a staple in every public library. In "Mythology" Hamilton pays scrupulous attention to the Greek or Roman authors by whom the myths were transmitted to us. In this book, she discusses several of the most prominent of the Greek authors who
Since the book was republished in 1943 it is, necessarily, a work of scholarly propaganda, in the same way that, e.g., several of C. S. Foresters's novels and short stories were fictional propaganda. These days, when we expect propaganda to be simplistic, on social media, and only originating with the enemy and never "our side", most readers tend not to be able to recognize even the most obvious propaganda in a well-written and scholarly work which is now of limited interest to many modern readers. But the propaganda is intrinsic and ubiquitous and is strongly encouraging us, the readers, to courageously defend that culture, some vital part of which we were so lucky as to inherit from the Greeks. She wants us to understand that we are standing on the shoulders of giants and we ought to be worthy.
She makes a very strong argument for Greek sculpture as being exceptional in its idealized realism. Much other art, associated with other civilizations, she argues is either unrealistic or un-idealistic. I do think that the examination of what art a culture chooses to construct to represent itself does indicate something about the values of that culture. At present, much public art being made in the US seem to lack realism and idealism, sometimes both at once. One also thinks of advertising in the US, the enormous banners in the Boston train station advertising a new medicine for erectile disfunction, and entirely dominating any of its architectural features, for instance.
She compares Greek literature with English in a few ways, focusing mostly on the relative realism and terseness of Greek literature. When she discusses the individual authors, she may often select an English writer to compare to: Pindar is like Kipling in some ways, Aeschylus like Shakespeare, Aristophanes resembles W. S. Gilbert.
The book is erudite and opinionated. It seems very likely that this work strongly influenced Mary Renault's novels of early classical Greece: "The Praise Singer", about the events that preceded the Persian Wars in Ionia and Athens, and "The Last of the Wine", a novel of the Peloponnesian War.
Her discussion of the ancient Egyptian life and character seems entirely at odds with that of Elizabeth Peters in her books on ancient Egypt, "Red Land, Black Land" and "Temples, Tombs, and Hieroglyphs".
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lived before or during the Peloponnesian War. The two books do complement each other, although not in any very direct way. Most of the excerpts from the works of the various Greek authors seem to be her own translations, which is impressive. She wrote the book in 1930 and published a revised and extended version in 1943, which is the version that I read. She has a profound admiration, not so much for the ancient Greek way of life as such, but for what she sees as its astonishing innovations in a humane culture.Since the book was republished in 1943 it is, necessarily, a work of scholarly propaganda, in the same way that, e.g., several of C. S. Foresters's novels and short stories were fictional propaganda. These days, when we expect propaganda to be simplistic, on social media, and only originating with the enemy and never "our side", most readers tend not to be able to recognize even the most obvious propaganda in a well-written and scholarly work which is now of limited interest to many modern readers. But the propaganda is intrinsic and ubiquitous and is strongly encouraging us, the readers, to courageously defend that culture, some vital part of which we were so lucky as to inherit from the Greeks. She wants us to understand that we are standing on the shoulders of giants and we ought to be worthy.
She makes a very strong argument for Greek sculpture as being exceptional in its idealized realism. Much other art, associated with other civilizations, she argues is either unrealistic or un-idealistic. I do think that the examination of what art a culture chooses to construct to represent itself does indicate something about the values of that culture. At present, much public art being made in the US seem to lack realism and idealism, sometimes both at once. One also thinks of advertising in the US, the enormous banners in the Boston train station advertising a new medicine for erectile disfunction, and entirely dominating any of its architectural features, for instance.
She compares Greek literature with English in a few ways, focusing mostly on the relative realism and terseness of Greek literature. When she discusses the individual authors, she may often select an English writer to compare to: Pindar is like Kipling in some ways, Aeschylus like Shakespeare, Aristophanes resembles W. S. Gilbert.
The book is erudite and opinionated. It seems very likely that this work strongly influenced Mary Renault's novels of early classical Greece: "The Praise Singer", about the events that preceded the Persian Wars in Ionia and Athens, and "The Last of the Wine", a novel of the Peloponnesian War.
Her discussion of the ancient Egyptian life and character seems entirely at odds with that of Elizabeth Peters in her books on ancient Egypt, "Red Land, Black Land" and "Temples, Tombs, and Hieroglyphs".
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LibraryThing member JVioland
Another wonderful history of Ancient Greece.
LibraryThing member jerry-book
Excellent review of Greek culture.
LibraryThing member Sandydog1
The stilted, Edwardian, arcane prose was a challenge for me. Maybe I've the attention span of a short-tailed shrew, maybe I'd do better with this book in Power Point format. 2 stars for readability, 5 stars for at least understanding that these essays are most likely, genius. The biographical
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LibraryThing member wunder
We read Edith Hamilton for her personal relationship with the classical Greek authors, so skip the art history and intellectual history and go straight to the good stuff. You can start with chapter IV (The Greek Way of Writing) or chapter V (Pindar), either way works.
The first few chapters are
I first read this in my early teens and it was great then. So I'll call it an "all ages" book.
The first few chapters are
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pretty dated, especially the East/West stuff, which was written thirty years before Edward Said's "Orientalism" challenged that model. Also, it just isn't as engaging as the following chapters. So skip it.I first read this in my early teens and it was great then. So I'll call it an "all ages" book.
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LibraryThing member nbmars
Edith Hamilton begins her 1930 classic with the following introduction:
“Five hundred years before Christ in a little town on the far western border of the settled and civilized world, a strange new power was at work... Athens had entered upon her brief and magnificent flowering of genius which so
Her love affair with Greek civilization started at an early age. She was home-schooled, and her father guided her towards studies of the classics, teaching her Latin and Greek. (Her mother, meanwhile, taught the children French and German.)
For most of her years, she was an educator, including a position as head administrator of Bryn Mawr School, a college preparatory school for girls in Baltimore, Maryland. It was only after retiring as an educator in 1922 that she began a second career as an author of essays and best-selling books on ancient Greek and Roman civilizations. She published The Greek Way, her first book and an instant success, when she was 62.
"I came to the Greeks early," Hamilton told an interviewer when she was ninety-one, "and I found answers in them. Greece's great men let all their acts turn on the immortality of the soul. We don't really act as if we believed in the soul's immortality and that's why we are where we are today.”
Her book has become a classic about the Classics. And indeed, the ancient Greeks did contribute many concepts and works of art that are still important and relevant today. However, methinks the lady overstates her case in more than a few instances. For example, she actually asserts, “The Greeks were the first people in the world to play, and they played on a great scale.” This assertion is just plain crazy—even animals play [ask any dog owner]—and I very much doubt that they learned to play from the Greeks. The Greeks did, however, invent the Olympics; but that is not so much play as vigorous competition. In any event, Wikipedia has a detailed rundown of pre-historic gaming here.
Ms. Hamilton is a hero worshipper, and her heroes are aristocrats, both ancient Greek and modern. She imputes to the Ancient Greeks qualities that seem rather less than human, although admittedly she shared that tendency with a great many other admirers of that idealized culture, including most infamously the Nazis. One thinks of, for example, the 1938 film by Leni Riefenstahl, “Olympia,” in which she begins by showing the Athenian Acropolis and statues of Greek athletes, before fading into the scenes from the Berlin Olympics, conveying the message that the glories of Classical Greece were now being expressed by Nazi Germany (at least, once they could get rid of the Jews…)
In any event, Hamilton’s hero worship comes out throughout the book. She makes the error of attributing to most Periclean Greeks the qualities Plato ascribes to Socrates. Plato’s Socrates, as distinguished from the historical Socrates, is pretty heroic, but he is fiction. I suspect the actual Greeks were more accurately described by Aristophanes in his bawdy comedies.
Hamilton also maintains that quality of the plays by three great Greek tragedians—Sophocles, Aeschylus, and Euripides—has been matched only by Shakespeare in the two millennia since they wrote. That’s a mighty aggressive opinion, but one characteristic of the book as a whole.
I don’t mean this review to be totally negative. Her analysis of two Greek historians—Herodotus and Thucydides—is measured and accurate. Her command of the entirety of Greek art and history is truly impressive, although she does give somewhat short shrift to Greek philosophy. And her writing style is excellent. Indeed, her sentence structure and vocabulary are so uniformly superlative that many reviewers have overlooked the enormity of many of her claims. They also, for many years, bought into her contention that the modern spirit of the West was “a Greek discovery” and that the East just wasn’t important.
Evaluation: While I enjoyed her writing and the scope of the book, she consistently praises the merits of her subject matter, occasionally misstates some facts, and consistently valorizes the West in general and the Greeks in particular while ignoring the contributions to civilization of such areas as - well, all of Asia.
(JAB)
“Five hundred years before Christ in a little town on the far western border of the settled and civilized world, a strange new power was at work... Athens had entered upon her brief and magnificent flowering of genius which so
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molded the world of mind and of spirit that our mind and spirit today are different... What was then produced of art and of thought has never been surpassed and very rarely equalled, and the stamp of it is upon all the art and all the thought of the Western world.”Her love affair with Greek civilization started at an early age. She was home-schooled, and her father guided her towards studies of the classics, teaching her Latin and Greek. (Her mother, meanwhile, taught the children French and German.)
For most of her years, she was an educator, including a position as head administrator of Bryn Mawr School, a college preparatory school for girls in Baltimore, Maryland. It was only after retiring as an educator in 1922 that she began a second career as an author of essays and best-selling books on ancient Greek and Roman civilizations. She published The Greek Way, her first book and an instant success, when she was 62.
"I came to the Greeks early," Hamilton told an interviewer when she was ninety-one, "and I found answers in them. Greece's great men let all their acts turn on the immortality of the soul. We don't really act as if we believed in the soul's immortality and that's why we are where we are today.”
Her book has become a classic about the Classics. And indeed, the ancient Greeks did contribute many concepts and works of art that are still important and relevant today. However, methinks the lady overstates her case in more than a few instances. For example, she actually asserts, “The Greeks were the first people in the world to play, and they played on a great scale.” This assertion is just plain crazy—even animals play [ask any dog owner]—and I very much doubt that they learned to play from the Greeks. The Greeks did, however, invent the Olympics; but that is not so much play as vigorous competition. In any event, Wikipedia has a detailed rundown of pre-historic gaming here.
Ms. Hamilton is a hero worshipper, and her heroes are aristocrats, both ancient Greek and modern. She imputes to the Ancient Greeks qualities that seem rather less than human, although admittedly she shared that tendency with a great many other admirers of that idealized culture, including most infamously the Nazis. One thinks of, for example, the 1938 film by Leni Riefenstahl, “Olympia,” in which she begins by showing the Athenian Acropolis and statues of Greek athletes, before fading into the scenes from the Berlin Olympics, conveying the message that the glories of Classical Greece were now being expressed by Nazi Germany (at least, once they could get rid of the Jews…)
In any event, Hamilton’s hero worship comes out throughout the book. She makes the error of attributing to most Periclean Greeks the qualities Plato ascribes to Socrates. Plato’s Socrates, as distinguished from the historical Socrates, is pretty heroic, but he is fiction. I suspect the actual Greeks were more accurately described by Aristophanes in his bawdy comedies.
Hamilton also maintains that quality of the plays by three great Greek tragedians—Sophocles, Aeschylus, and Euripides—has been matched only by Shakespeare in the two millennia since they wrote. That’s a mighty aggressive opinion, but one characteristic of the book as a whole.
I don’t mean this review to be totally negative. Her analysis of two Greek historians—Herodotus and Thucydides—is measured and accurate. Her command of the entirety of Greek art and history is truly impressive, although she does give somewhat short shrift to Greek philosophy. And her writing style is excellent. Indeed, her sentence structure and vocabulary are so uniformly superlative that many reviewers have overlooked the enormity of many of her claims. They also, for many years, bought into her contention that the modern spirit of the West was “a Greek discovery” and that the East just wasn’t important.
Evaluation: While I enjoyed her writing and the scope of the book, she consistently praises the merits of her subject matter, occasionally misstates some facts, and consistently valorizes the West in general and the Greeks in particular while ignoring the contributions to civilization of such areas as - well, all of Asia.
(JAB)
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LibraryThing member Aidan767
An excellent resource on wrongly representing foreign cultures. I may refer back to it if I want to know what not to do.
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