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The Crossroad Publishing Company (2009), Edition: 1st, 187 pages
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For Christians seeking a way of thinking outside of strict dualities, this guide explores methods for letting go of division and living in the present. Drawn from the Gospels, Jesus, Paul, and the great Christian contemplatives, this examination reveals how many of the hidden truths of Christianity have been misunderstood or lost and how to read them with the eyes of the mystics rather than interpreting them through rational thought. Filled with sayings, stories, quotations, and appeals to the heart, specific methods for identifying dualistic thinking are presented with simple practices for stripping away ego and the fear of dwelling in the present.
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LibraryThing member remikit
This book is like the cover blurb says, "it is like a breath of fresh air." Somehow, he manages to answer questions about how to be human, love others and still live in this world with its imperfections and paradoxes in under 200 pages. Coolness. Way cool. Buy this book.
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For Christians seeking a way of thinking outside of strict dualities, this guide explores methods for letting go of division and living in the present. Drawn from the Gospels, Jesus, Paul, and the great Christian contemplatives, this examination reveals how many of the hidden truths of Christianity
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have been misunderstood or lost and how to read them with the eyes of the mystics rather than interpreting them through rational thought. Filled with sayings, stories, quotations, and appeals to the heart, specific methods for identifying dualistic thinking are presented with simple practices for stripping away ego and the fear of dwelling in the present. Show Less
LibraryThing member debnance
I’ve had this book recommended to me for years, and when I got a gift card for Mother’s Day, I finally plunged in and bought it. So glad I did.
The author is a Catholic priest and he’s had time to reflect on what religion should bring to us and what it isn’t bringing to us. And since
Shall I share one? I think I shall.
Jesus is telling us these secrets in every word he speaks, but we are too caught up in our dualistic thinking to understand what he is telling us. To get to Jesus, to experience God, we have to let go of our scientific yes-no, black-white thoughts and be in the naked now.
Sounds easy, right? Rohr would beg to differ. It’s the hardest thing you will ever do.
I better get busy, then. Off to live in the naked now. Let’s see if I can try to put Rohr’s secrets to work.
The author is a Catholic priest and he’s had time to reflect on what religion should bring to us and what it isn’t bringing to us. And since
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religion isn’t doing its job, Rohr has decided to help out and share some real secrets we are missing out on. Shall I share one? I think I shall.
Jesus is telling us these secrets in every word he speaks, but we are too caught up in our dualistic thinking to understand what he is telling us. To get to Jesus, to experience God, we have to let go of our scientific yes-no, black-white thoughts and be in the naked now.
Sounds easy, right? Rohr would beg to differ. It’s the hardest thing you will ever do.
I better get busy, then. Off to live in the naked now. Let’s see if I can try to put Rohr’s secrets to work.
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LibraryThing member b.masonjudy
Rohr tackles dualistic thinking in the Western Christian faith and points to a time where mystery and paradox were not only embraced in the tradition but a significant aspect of practice. His clarity and brevity dealing with heady matters demonstrates a deep level of distillation and I truly
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appreciate the appendix that offers practice to accompany his theoretical endeavors. The end paragraphs at the end of each chapter made me wince, their style akin to a self-help manual, but overall this is an accessible book of faith and wisdom. Show Less
LibraryThing member goosecap
“I can survive only by trying to build bridges, both affirming and denying most of my own ideas and those of others.”
As good as my initial engagement with Richard was, (I could read comedies and feel good about myself for being wise, instead of feeling paranoid and threatened), really I did
…. “ALL SAYING MUST BE BALANCING BY UNSAYING.”
I was reading this science book, (about COVID), and I used to be irritated by the science use of the word “myth”—debunking myths—because myths are stories and stories can be good and blah blah blah, I’m great. (Blah blah blah.) But maybe it’s good. Stories can be good OR bad—certainly there can be untruth in ideas—and maybe “debunking myths” means “un-telling stories”—like un-telling yourself the story of white superiority—or, as Richard says, all caps, bro: “All saying must be balanced by unsaying.” Literally debunking ALL myths, simultaneously.
…. But there will be darkness, in this life.
…. Maybe it’s better not to “understand” your neighbor so well, if you don’t think that she’s a son of God.
…. Richard is very grown-up, you know, mature. Matthew Fox is very dualistic, like Old Values = Bad, please replace with New Values = Good, because You Oldsters= Bad, so please shut up. You know, like, Mommy it’s hard to love the people and not sleep around—let’s just have a bingo night, and if people want to have sex and denounce their enemies, ok! Have fun, the end! (It seems like that to me, anyway.) Richard is like, No the values are where we should be, loving the people and not fleecing them for sex, but sometimes it seems like we just don’t love anybody and wail on them instead. So, let’s take it apart in our heads and hearts, and put it back together again, like Jesus used to do when he was on earth….
Of course, ultimately (or contingently?) we all have our own point of view, and I probably don’t look at things exactly like Richard. (I think I am a bit more like Richard than Brian, but, who cares.) And, really—how much can you explain? It all depends on the assumed context on who’s reading you and what they’re like, and much of that you obviously don’t know, so, there you go.
…. Richard is right; there’s hope for the person who is self-critical, but not negative.
…. Sometimes jokes happen, and I don’t really like it, you know. (I’ve heard all the jokes before.) But sometimes prayer happens, and it makes my life better.
…. ‘Opening the door—great love and great suffering’
It’s notable (Richard mentions this in one of the appendices I think), that great learning is not exactly a door, maybe a way of walking, but not a door, exactly—it’s a way of interpreting or *using* great love and/or great suffering, you know, but by itself, what is it?
Of course, there is the old saying that Alexander the Great’s horse was still just a horse at the end of his campaign; he didn’t learn anything, you know. (So the random Nazi needs to do more than suffer for a thousand years, unrepentant and fuming, to get out of hell, ‘where the Fire goes not out’—although sometimes I like suffering even better than love, as it seems to be, more democratic, you know, more available.) But, *pace* the horse, unless your circumstances are extremely narrow, you’ve probably also met the person who’s stumbled across “enlightened”, edifying teaching much like a language learner, you know. —Gobeley-gook, to save, gobeley-gook. Gobeley-gook-y, salvation, gobeley-gook-y.
Whereas on the other side, if you seriously looked at a decent children’s story, (unlike most children, I suppose, in it for the spectacle or fuming at alcoholic mommy or just learning their native language, to save, how nice, to save), and it’s not some racist delusion that also sells sex, then you might actually learn from from it, in terms of honesty and integrity, than you might from even a really nice encyclopedia (something I’d like to have, incidentally).
…. “1. Try to stay *beneath* your thoughts, neither fighting them nor thinking them.”
It’s basically throwing out all the Freud’s parts of the self, you know. (In a way.) I have a feeling I don’t like, ego muses on whether to act out with id or get tough, get ‘righteous’ with superego, but whatever ego decides, self is the master and not God. So you bend down a little bit, even though it’s hard to just bend down a little bit, and say, whatever, I’m in a place where I don’t want to be, an unwell person will be waiting for me when I’m done, and I have this and that to do to check off boxes and really ‘be’, ‘somebody’, but none of that matters. Right now, I’m here, and that’s all there is. Later, all that might or might not happen, but then later later will be all there is, you know. But not now.
Now, this is what God has offered me, so this is all there is.
As good as my initial engagement with Richard was, (I could read comedies and feel good about myself for being wise, instead of feeling paranoid and threatened), really I did
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not start to engage with him in a full way until I had once decided that he was wrong, at least that he Could be wrong. Before that it was just preening. Now I flatter myself that I’m like a mini Richard. (Albeit not so big and publishable.) I don’t know. I see people as being full of shit, but I love them. It’s ok. We all go through things. Jesus didn’t tell the woman at the well to sit down and shut up because she initially liked Jacob better than her. (How many of us like someone from Back Then, or some famous or semi-famous person, like Richard, even, instead of the person we’re actually with….) I don’t know. There’s a lot I could say, but none of it would make any sense. I need a biographer, not because I matter like that, but because I don’t understand myself well enough to write a memoir. I could read some girl’s book about me, and then I would go, Oh! Oh, ok. And I would understand. …. “ALL SAYING MUST BE BALANCING BY UNSAYING.”
I was reading this science book, (about COVID), and I used to be irritated by the science use of the word “myth”—debunking myths—because myths are stories and stories can be good and blah blah blah, I’m great. (Blah blah blah.) But maybe it’s good. Stories can be good OR bad—certainly there can be untruth in ideas—and maybe “debunking myths” means “un-telling stories”—like un-telling yourself the story of white superiority—or, as Richard says, all caps, bro: “All saying must be balanced by unsaying.” Literally debunking ALL myths, simultaneously.
…. But there will be darkness, in this life.
…. Maybe it’s better not to “understand” your neighbor so well, if you don’t think that she’s a son of God.
…. Richard is very grown-up, you know, mature. Matthew Fox is very dualistic, like Old Values = Bad, please replace with New Values = Good, because You Oldsters= Bad, so please shut up. You know, like, Mommy it’s hard to love the people and not sleep around—let’s just have a bingo night, and if people want to have sex and denounce their enemies, ok! Have fun, the end! (It seems like that to me, anyway.) Richard is like, No the values are where we should be, loving the people and not fleecing them for sex, but sometimes it seems like we just don’t love anybody and wail on them instead. So, let’s take it apart in our heads and hearts, and put it back together again, like Jesus used to do when he was on earth….
Of course, ultimately (or contingently?) we all have our own point of view, and I probably don’t look at things exactly like Richard. (I think I am a bit more like Richard than Brian, but, who cares.) And, really—how much can you explain? It all depends on the assumed context on who’s reading you and what they’re like, and much of that you obviously don’t know, so, there you go.
…. Richard is right; there’s hope for the person who is self-critical, but not negative.
…. Sometimes jokes happen, and I don’t really like it, you know. (I’ve heard all the jokes before.) But sometimes prayer happens, and it makes my life better.
…. ‘Opening the door—great love and great suffering’
It’s notable (Richard mentions this in one of the appendices I think), that great learning is not exactly a door, maybe a way of walking, but not a door, exactly—it’s a way of interpreting or *using* great love and/or great suffering, you know, but by itself, what is it?
Of course, there is the old saying that Alexander the Great’s horse was still just a horse at the end of his campaign; he didn’t learn anything, you know. (So the random Nazi needs to do more than suffer for a thousand years, unrepentant and fuming, to get out of hell, ‘where the Fire goes not out’—although sometimes I like suffering even better than love, as it seems to be, more democratic, you know, more available.) But, *pace* the horse, unless your circumstances are extremely narrow, you’ve probably also met the person who’s stumbled across “enlightened”, edifying teaching much like a language learner, you know. —Gobeley-gook, to save, gobeley-gook. Gobeley-gook-y, salvation, gobeley-gook-y.
Whereas on the other side, if you seriously looked at a decent children’s story, (unlike most children, I suppose, in it for the spectacle or fuming at alcoholic mommy or just learning their native language, to save, how nice, to save), and it’s not some racist delusion that also sells sex, then you might actually learn from from it, in terms of honesty and integrity, than you might from even a really nice encyclopedia (something I’d like to have, incidentally).
…. “1. Try to stay *beneath* your thoughts, neither fighting them nor thinking them.”
It’s basically throwing out all the Freud’s parts of the self, you know. (In a way.) I have a feeling I don’t like, ego muses on whether to act out with id or get tough, get ‘righteous’ with superego, but whatever ego decides, self is the master and not God. So you bend down a little bit, even though it’s hard to just bend down a little bit, and say, whatever, I’m in a place where I don’t want to be, an unwell person will be waiting for me when I’m done, and I have this and that to do to check off boxes and really ‘be’, ‘somebody’, but none of that matters. Right now, I’m here, and that’s all there is. Later, all that might or might not happen, but then later later will be all there is, you know. But not now.
Now, this is what God has offered me, so this is all there is.
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Language
Original language
English
Physical description
187 p.; 8.15 inches
ISBN
0824525434 / 9780824525439
UPC
884181990615