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Indeholder "A Note for Reader", " 1. Overview", "Part I. The Science of Trust", " 2. A Natural History of Security", " 3. The Evolution of Cooperation", " 4. A Social History of Trust", " 5. Societal Dilemmas", "Part II. A Model of Trust", " 6. Societal Pressures", " 7. Moral Pressures", " 8.
En glimrende bog om tillid og om hvordan det får samfundet til at hænge sammen. I alt fald får mangel på tillid et samfund til at smuldre helt, som fx Sovjetunionens fald beviser.
Undervejs er der gennemgang af Prisoner's Dilemma i mange afskygninger. The Ultimatum Game, The Dictator Game, The Trust Game, The Public Goods Game. Mange eksperimenter viser at simple økonomiske modeller i alt fald ikke gælder for menneskelig adfærd.
Vi opfører os typisk som om vi er i en gruppe på ca 150 personer, som før eller siden får det at vide hvis vi laver en svinestreg.
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Reputational Pressures", " 9. Institutional Pressures", " 10. Security Systems", "Part III. The Real World", " 11. Competing Interests", " 12. Organizations", " 13. Corporations", " 14. Institutions", "Part IV. Conclusions", " 15. How Societal Pressures Fail", " 16. Technological Advances", " 17. The Future", "Acknowledgements", "Notes", "References", "About the Author", "Index".En glimrende bog om tillid og om hvordan det får samfundet til at hænge sammen. I alt fald får mangel på tillid et samfund til at smuldre helt, som fx Sovjetunionens fald beviser.
Undervejs er der gennemgang af Prisoner's Dilemma i mange afskygninger. The Ultimatum Game, The Dictator Game, The Trust Game, The Public Goods Game. Mange eksperimenter viser at simple økonomiske modeller i alt fald ikke gælder for menneskelig adfærd.
Vi opfører os typisk som om vi er i en gruppe på ca 150 personer, som før eller siden får det at vide hvis vi laver en svinestreg.
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Indianapolis, IN : Wiley Pub., Inc., 2012.
Description
In today's hyper-connected society, understanding the mechanisms of trust is crucial. Issues of trust are critical to solving problems as diverse as corporate responsibility, global warming, and the political system. In this insightful and entertaining book, Schneier weaves together ideas from across the social and biological sciences to explain how society induces trust. He shows the unique role of trust in facilitating and stabilizing human society. He discusses why and how trust has evolved, why it works the way it does, and the ways the information society is changing everything.
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LibraryThing member DavidWineberg
Bruce Schneier lives in a very different world. His specialty has long been IT security, and he has drilled so deep, no one can compare. This book is about trust and security, using history, psychology, sociology, anthropology, and especially philosophy, to trace their development and deployment.
And yet, it doesn't always ring true. Schneier spends many pages extolling the virtues of society and how an optimal mix of co-operative elements keeps the liars, cheaters and criminals in check. There are whole chapters on societal, moral and reputational pressures. But we have only to look to our own reality to see it isn't so.
At the corporate level, for example, individual companies do not always work to keep the bad seeds out. Entire industries are crooked, criminal affairs that exist purely to suck the lifeblood out of their customers. There isn't a bank in the United States that we can take pride in. They don't talk about customer loyalty; they plot lock-in. They are universally loathed and despised, and they continue to treat their customers worse and worse, to reinforce it. Airlines should be prosecuted for the obvious collusion in the bizarre fee structures, penalties and restrictions they all magically decided to impose on the public a few years back. Health insurers have one overriding goal - to deny health services to their customers and let them fight to get reimbursed. There isn't one of them anyone loves. If they all disappeared tomorrow, no one would mourn for the good old days.
There isn't one participant in any of these entire industries that we trust. There isn't one participant in these industries who take your side or come to your defense. We don't trust them to do what they say, we don't trust them to be honest and forthright, and we don't trust them with our personal data. We don't trust entire sectors of the economy. We have zero faith in any of them. And that goes for every level of government, too, whether it's $100,000 in pork to a brother-in-law, to selling the entire state to gas frackers. The NYPD is seen as an army of occupation. Congress rates well below used car salesmen in confidence and trust.
That's not how Schneier describes it. So by page 100 I was looking at Liars and Outliers differently.
Meanwhile, the book races through internet security and the false confidence everyone has in posting personal photos and messages. Schneier rightly points out there can be too much security, and cutting our trillion dollar security expenditure in half will not double our risk for terrorism. We are not safer for that level of spending, he says, and spending ten times as much will not make us ten times safer.
Another excellent chapter, Institutions, uses the TSA as model of conflicting needs and perceptions to describe how this one agency performs its mandate. Schneier was was on the plaintiffs' bench when TSA, reacting to the underwear bomber, suddenly and massively deployed full body scanners, which among other faults, could not detect an underwear bomb. Pointless security, at huge expense. A poster child for this book.
In conclusion Schneier point out comprehensively that we constantly look in the wrong place, overreact to squeaky wheels and ignore the smaller problems that can have greater impact. Doesn't matter that more Americans die from exposure to peanuts than to terrorists that we spend trillions on terrorists and nothing on allergies.
The prognosis is for more of the same; it's the nature of the beast, unfortunately. Schneier lays out the parameters for making it work better. But we all know, plus ca change.....
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He not only divines the if, but the how and when that people, and their societies, confer trust. He slices and dices his topic in every conceivable way. It is a fascinating process to watch.And yet, it doesn't always ring true. Schneier spends many pages extolling the virtues of society and how an optimal mix of co-operative elements keeps the liars, cheaters and criminals in check. There are whole chapters on societal, moral and reputational pressures. But we have only to look to our own reality to see it isn't so.
At the corporate level, for example, individual companies do not always work to keep the bad seeds out. Entire industries are crooked, criminal affairs that exist purely to suck the lifeblood out of their customers. There isn't a bank in the United States that we can take pride in. They don't talk about customer loyalty; they plot lock-in. They are universally loathed and despised, and they continue to treat their customers worse and worse, to reinforce it. Airlines should be prosecuted for the obvious collusion in the bizarre fee structures, penalties and restrictions they all magically decided to impose on the public a few years back. Health insurers have one overriding goal - to deny health services to their customers and let them fight to get reimbursed. There isn't one of them anyone loves. If they all disappeared tomorrow, no one would mourn for the good old days.
There isn't one participant in any of these entire industries that we trust. There isn't one participant in these industries who take your side or come to your defense. We don't trust them to do what they say, we don't trust them to be honest and forthright, and we don't trust them with our personal data. We don't trust entire sectors of the economy. We have zero faith in any of them. And that goes for every level of government, too, whether it's $100,000 in pork to a brother-in-law, to selling the entire state to gas frackers. The NYPD is seen as an army of occupation. Congress rates well below used car salesmen in confidence and trust.
That's not how Schneier describes it. So by page 100 I was looking at Liars and Outliers differently.
Meanwhile, the book races through internet security and the false confidence everyone has in posting personal photos and messages. Schneier rightly points out there can be too much security, and cutting our trillion dollar security expenditure in half will not double our risk for terrorism. We are not safer for that level of spending, he says, and spending ten times as much will not make us ten times safer.
Another excellent chapter, Institutions, uses the TSA as model of conflicting needs and perceptions to describe how this one agency performs its mandate. Schneier was was on the plaintiffs' bench when TSA, reacting to the underwear bomber, suddenly and massively deployed full body scanners, which among other faults, could not detect an underwear bomb. Pointless security, at huge expense. A poster child for this book.
In conclusion Schneier point out comprehensively that we constantly look in the wrong place, overreact to squeaky wheels and ignore the smaller problems that can have greater impact. Doesn't matter that more Americans die from exposure to peanuts than to terrorists that we spend trillions on terrorists and nothing on allergies.
The prognosis is for more of the same; it's the nature of the beast, unfortunately. Schneier lays out the parameters for making it work better. But we all know, plus ca change.....
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LibraryThing member joeyreads
2 stars for most of it, 3 for the end notes, which in the best sections were longer (and invariably more interesting) than the actual text.
LibraryThing member epersonae
Having read his blog off and on for a number of years, a lot of it felt familiar...and I was surprised at how dry it was. (This is my vague recollection 6 months later.)
LibraryThing member qubex
Subpar when compared to the author's track-record.
Early on In the book he makes the academically uncontroversial claim that society embodies conflicts of interest as modelled by the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma. Then he spends the next ninety percent of the text reiterating the point with various
By the end of it, the main point is so far recessed in one's mind one can hardly call what the main thesis was.
Early on In the book he makes the academically uncontroversial claim that society embodies conflicts of interest as modelled by the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma. Then he spends the next ninety percent of the text reiterating the point with various
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illustrations and anecdotes.By the end of it, the main point is so far recessed in one's mind one can hardly call what the main thesis was.
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LibraryThing member rivkat
Schneier is a smart man, but this isn’t his most engaging work. It’s basically a series of schemas about what factors make people cooperate or defect, looking at the multiple communities/pressures/morals/interests/technologies etc. that affect such decisions. Big takeaway: societies that
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don’t have many defections (however defined—defections from a bad rule can be good, too) tend to be highly unfree; the key is to have a balance of deterrents and acknowledge the costs of various constraints. Otherwise you end up with the TSA, expensive and not very worthwhile. Show Less
LibraryThing member Lyndatrue
A slight preface: When Scott Adams left his job, and decided to write Dilbert full time, he quit being funny. It didn't even take that long. I still have some of the old strips, and they're still funny.
Bruce seems to have fallen into that path, a bit. I've bought several of his books, and while I'd
You'd think I'd have learned my lesson with Secrets and Lies. Nope. I finally gave up on this, skimmed to the end, and set it aside.
Bruce seems to have fallen into that path, a bit. I've bought several of his books, and while I'd
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never EVER give up either edition of Applied Cryptography, I think I'll be content from here on to just read his newsletter, and not buy more books. He's a brilliant cryptographer, and a decent human being. I'd trust him in almost any situation.You'd think I'd have learned my lesson with Secrets and Lies. Nope. I finally gave up on this, skimmed to the end, and set it aside.
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LibraryThing member Skybalon
Sort of interesting book, but with some significant problems. First of all the book is a very academic study of trust in relationship to society. And while the author attempts to make it occasionally entertaining, it mostly ends up as dry as your average text book. Second, the author attempts to
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make a case for rational "goodness" without really making his case. Finally and maybe most troubling, there is nothing actionable in this book. This book makes a case that trust is both necessary and pretty much automatic in any sort of functional society. Yeah for us and yeah for trust, but maybe just write a short paper the next time. Show Less
LibraryThing member spisaacs
Really informative look at the what helps members of society act rationally and allows society to function. Schneier explains many of the commons models of trust that exist at different layers of society and provides examples of each. I would have preferred to have the examples be a little more in
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depth and most of them were covered at a very high level. I guess that would make this a good jumping off point to other books which go in depth on any of the failures mentioned in the book. Overall I really enjoyed the book it was a very easy read and I recommend it. Show Less
LibraryThing member steve02476
Some good stuff, but the writing and editing left something to be desired. Not a long book, but could have been half the size and still conveyed the same info - especially if you got rid of the repetitive charts.
Language
Original language
English
Original publication date
2012-01-27
Physical description
xiv, 366 p.; 23.5 cm
ISBN
9781118143308
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Omslag: Ikke angivet
Omslaget viser et plot af overlappende cirkler af forskellig farve
Indskannet omslag - N650U - 150 dpi
Omslagsbilledet er inspireret af et design Luke Fretwell sendte til Bruce Schneier
Omslaget viser et plot af overlappende cirkler af forskellig farve
Indskannet omslag - N650U - 150 dpi
Omslagsbilledet er inspireret af et design Luke Fretwell sendte til Bruce Schneier
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Pages
xiv; 366
DDC/MDS
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