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Riverdale, NY : New York : Baen ; Distributed by Simon & Schuster, c2002.
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Best-selling author Eric Flint's 1632 showed listeners a fascinating alternate history of the Thirty Years' War through the eyes of a West Virginia community tossed back in time to 17th-century Germany. Here Flint teams up with acclaimed science fiction author David Weber to continue his epic tale. In 1633, the West Virginians attempt to use their modern-day knowledge to build a resistance against the forces of France, Spain, and England.
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LibraryThing member Elneclare
Since reading the First of the Series 1632, I looked forward to each new book to hit the book stores. This is also one of the few series my boyfriend and I fight over, for who will get first chance to read in hardback.
LibraryThing member Bidwell-Glaze
I enjoyed this book almost as much as the original (1632) and enjoyed learning how the people who were villains in 1632 get a second chance to change with the times. I still don't like them, but they are put in a position where they can help an they do. It is obviously a set-up for a longer series.
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LibraryThing member AZ_Dude
A West Virginia town deals with the challenges of being thrown back in time to the 17th Century. They work to save themselves as well as improve things in general.
LibraryThing member MSWallack
Not quite as good as 1632, the sequel is still a very good story. Now that things have settled down a bit (following the events of 1632), we have more time to meet more characters and see the changes wrought upon Europe in a much broader scale. Once again, highly recommended (at least assuming that
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LibraryThing member tcgardner
The sequel to Eric Flint's 1632. Another great Alt. Hist. book.
I enjoyed this book very much. While continuing the story of 1632, this book goes more into politics and real history of the time. A good look at 17th century politics even if this is an alternate history book.
I cannot recommend this
I enjoyed this book very much. While continuing the story of 1632, this book goes more into politics and real history of the time. A good look at 17th century politics even if this is an alternate history book.
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LibraryThing member TadAD
Similar to the first, though I didn't care for the ending that much.
LibraryThing member ClytieS
This continues the gripping and realistic series started in "1632", and it is also available from the Baen Free Library.
LibraryThing member cmbohn
Themes: war, religion, politics, patriotism, technology, love, expansionism, free will vs. fate
Setting: Westphalia, London, Amsterdam, new West Virginia 1633
This picks up more or less where 1632 left off. The new American-Sweden alliance has won a temporary victory over the German and Spanish
I enjoyed this book, but not as much as 1632 and Ring of Fire. The politics and the behind the scenes maneuvering take up too much time and the personal relationships not enough time. Towards the end of the book, though, the politics finally fade into the background and we got on with things. It's a tough conclusion, but a good one. Just the reminder that war is brutal and breaks your heart. I'm giving it 3 stars. I'm glad I read it, but I don't know if I'll continue with the series.
Setting: Westphalia, London, Amsterdam, new West Virginia 1633
This picks up more or less where 1632 left off. The new American-Sweden alliance has won a temporary victory over the German and Spanish
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forces. But Cardinal Richilieu is quick to spot the new threat to his own power and figure out how to manipulate things to his own advantage. He sets up a new alliance with Spain against the Americans. Meanwhile, the Americans are trying to establish diplomatic relations with England and the Netherlands. It's not going well. So the Americans work even harder preparing for the coming war.I enjoyed this book, but not as much as 1632 and Ring of Fire. The politics and the behind the scenes maneuvering take up too much time and the personal relationships not enough time. Towards the end of the book, though, the politics finally fade into the background and we got on with things. It's a tough conclusion, but a good one. Just the reminder that war is brutal and breaks your heart. I'm giving it 3 stars. I'm glad I read it, but I don't know if I'll continue with the series.
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LibraryThing member SimonW11
Volume 2 Nothing special Modern american town Finds itself in the midst of the thirty years war and brings Democracy, Big Guns and Apple Pie to the people. To be fair the authors do try to give the Pie a european flavour.
I learned some odds and sods about the history while grappled with an unlikely
For some reason this book brought home to me that many Americans do genuinely see themselves as part of an on going and continuing revolution. Democracy is for them very much a revolutionary ideal.
I learned some odds and sods about the history while grappled with an unlikely
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plot. Eric Flint is very much a product of the American trade union movement which gives the revolutionary ideals of this book a different feel to that usual.For some reason this book brought home to me that many Americans do genuinely see themselves as part of an on going and continuing revolution. Democracy is for them very much a revolutionary ideal.
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LibraryThing member dswaddell
A very entertaining book which expands on the first. Although it does sometime go into too much detail.
LibraryThing member daschaich
The Series Begins: In Eric Flint's 2000 book "1632," the town of Grantville is ripped from modern-day and dropped in the middle of Germany, in the middle of the Thirty Years' War. Thanks to its citizens' modern knowledge and weapons, a lot of luck, and an alliance with the powerful King of Sweden,
But in the 1630s, there are few European countries as powerful as France, which is controlled by the capable and ruthless Cardinal Richelieu. When stolen history books from Grantville make their way into his hands and show him the future development of France, Richelieu is not pleased. Along with the kings of England and Spain, Richelieu organizes the forces of absolute monarchy and established religion to stamp out the representative government, rule of law and religious pluralism that threaten to cast them into the dustbin of history. In their sights are potential revolutionary Oliver Cromwell, the insufferable Dutch Republic and, of course, Grantville.
Even though "1633" is a sequel to Eric Flint's "1632" (and incorporates a few of the short stories in the "Ring of Fire" anthology), it is really the first book in the series that Flint eventually decided to set in the "1632" universe. "1632" was originally designed to be a stand-alone novel, and it was only its unexpected success that led Flint to consider writing the full-blown series, collaborating with a series of coauthors, of which David Weber is the first.
Thus "1633" is a very different beast than "1632." Instead of being a fully self-contained novel, "1633" sets up several of the various plot strands that will be pursued in the 1634 books currently being written and published. There is much more character development, which fleshes out some of the characters who were relatively one-dimensional in 1632 (a good thing, in my opinion). On the other hand, there are fewer battles and a generally slower pace (which I did not mind). Despite leaving several threads hanging for future volumes, the book does have a solid conclusion.
If you read and enjoyed "1632," I would definitely recommend going on to "1633," though you may want to read "Ring of Fire" first - several of the short stories in that anthology were written before "1633" and incorporated into it by Flint and Weber, even though "1633" was published first. The uncertain should know that Baen offers the book for free on its Web site. I encourage them to check it out. "1633" kicks off what promises to be a thoroughly enjoyable alternate history series. Flint's decision to write with a number of different coauthors should keep the series from falling into a rut, making each book fresh and approached from a slightly different angle. I'm looking forward to reading them.
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the town was able to keep from being wiped out in its first year in the seventeenth century. So we move on to "1633."But in the 1630s, there are few European countries as powerful as France, which is controlled by the capable and ruthless Cardinal Richelieu. When stolen history books from Grantville make their way into his hands and show him the future development of France, Richelieu is not pleased. Along with the kings of England and Spain, Richelieu organizes the forces of absolute monarchy and established religion to stamp out the representative government, rule of law and religious pluralism that threaten to cast them into the dustbin of history. In their sights are potential revolutionary Oliver Cromwell, the insufferable Dutch Republic and, of course, Grantville.
Even though "1633" is a sequel to Eric Flint's "1632" (and incorporates a few of the short stories in the "Ring of Fire" anthology), it is really the first book in the series that Flint eventually decided to set in the "1632" universe. "1632" was originally designed to be a stand-alone novel, and it was only its unexpected success that led Flint to consider writing the full-blown series, collaborating with a series of coauthors, of which David Weber is the first.
Thus "1633" is a very different beast than "1632." Instead of being a fully self-contained novel, "1633" sets up several of the various plot strands that will be pursued in the 1634 books currently being written and published. There is much more character development, which fleshes out some of the characters who were relatively one-dimensional in 1632 (a good thing, in my opinion). On the other hand, there are fewer battles and a generally slower pace (which I did not mind). Despite leaving several threads hanging for future volumes, the book does have a solid conclusion.
If you read and enjoyed "1632," I would definitely recommend going on to "1633," though you may want to read "Ring of Fire" first - several of the short stories in that anthology were written before "1633" and incorporated into it by Flint and Weber, even though "1633" was published first. The uncertain should know that Baen offers the book for free on its Web site. I encourage them to check it out. "1633" kicks off what promises to be a thoroughly enjoyable alternate history series. Flint's decision to write with a number of different coauthors should keep the series from falling into a rut, making each book fresh and approached from a slightly different angle. I'm looking forward to reading them.
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LibraryThing member JeremyPreacher
As much of a brick 1633 is, I find it a lot less satisfying than its predecessor and sequels. While the climactic scene is set up well and packs an emotional punch, too much of the book is just setting up all the dominoes. Since I do like the sequels just fine, and I find Flint and Weber an
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agreeable pair of writers, I don't actually dislike the book, but it doesn't stand on its own well at all. Show Less
LibraryThing member capiam1234
Little slower than 1632, but it builds on the cast of characters and has me eager to continue through this universe.
LibraryThing member smcamp1234
Little slower than 1632, but it builds on the cast of characters and has me eager to continue through this universe.
LibraryThing member Alvinmich
Second book in the 1632 series, just as great as the first one. I highly recommend this book and series for anyone intrested in alternate history fiction.
LibraryThing member majackson
I'm impressed....Weber & Flint must engage in some hairy historic research projects. I've read the Shorter Cambridge Medieval History and found it captivating. But this is so much more fun for even more information.
The writing style is entertaining and the content is intriguing. And yes, we must
And, as for the technical achievements...compare this with the Lost Regiment Series by Forstchen. In that series, no western culture older than the Civil War would have had the knowledge to start from close to zero and build something useful. In this series, small town individualists are probably the most advanced cultural base in our society that could start with medieval technology and successfully establish a technological base.
I thoroughly enjoy the stories and will continue to read them.
The writing style is entertaining and the content is intriguing. And yes, we must
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assume that some literary license was taken with some of the historical characters starring in the Ring of Fire stories, but whatever liberties that may have been taken, they all feel logical and consistent. And, as for the technical achievements...compare this with the Lost Regiment Series by Forstchen. In that series, no western culture older than the Civil War would have had the knowledge to start from close to zero and build something useful. In this series, small town individualists are probably the most advanced cultural base in our society that could start with medieval technology and successfully establish a technological base.
I thoroughly enjoy the stories and will continue to read them.
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LibraryThing member longhorndaniel
This is actually one of the best sequels i have ever read; could not put it down; wanted it to keep going; had great characters; story and plot; really enjoyed it
LibraryThing member pjh1984
The only part I had a problem with was the description Mike gave of Democracy. Democracy is NOT self correcting. Any student of history and political science can tell you that Democracy is self failing. No democracy of a large size has survived for long [think hundreds of years vs years here] The
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only does that do are extemely small countries. And even that is no fail safe. Take for example Athens. It was a CITY STATE and it failed. But this is science fiction and alternative history so since it is fiction, we can allow a democracy to be self correcting and survive. It isn't non fiction after all. Show Less
LibraryThing member nx74defiant
Love this book. A great history lesson. I love how it goes into the problems of creating a modern day industries. And how people will fight to keep their position.
Original publication date
2002-08
ISBN
0743435427 / 9780743435420
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